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Service Details: 20th Hussars. service number 5261. Killed in action 30th May 1917 in "France & Flanders"-laid to rest in Unicorn Cemetery, Vend'huile, Aisne, France.
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George Albert Butters

Post by pacopitt » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:55 pm

I have just found out that my Great Uncle George Albert Butters was in the 20th Hussars for seven years approximately from 1905 until 1912, at which point he joined the Reserves and also joined the police force. He was called up for military service on the 4th August 1914-20th Hussars as a Private, service number 5261. He was killed in action on the 30th May 1917 in "France & Flanders" and laid to rest at Unicorn Cemetery, Vend'huile, France with grave reference II.F.19. I would like to find out more about him, and particularly where he would have been sent in the 7 years before he went to war. Where can I find this information please?
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Post by ALGY CAIN » Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:20 pm

Rosemary try this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Hussars
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Post by Mac McNulty » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:06 pm

Hi Rosemary,

If you have not done so already you can see the cemetery and the lay out of the plots to see where your Great Uncle is buried if you type in the google search bar "Unicorn Cemetery".

There are 7 other 20th Hussurs besides your Uncle laid to rest in that particular Cemetery.

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Post by Brian Hunter » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:54 pm

Rosemary

A photograph of the headstone is available from the War Graves Photographic Project. Follow the link below

http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=3066005

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Post by Johnny Morris » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:11 am

If you can get hold of his full army number from within your family members then I think the Ministry Of Defence Records would be able to help.

I cant tell from the picture of his headstone if his number is actually on it.

5261 - That could be either the grave number or his last 4 numbers of his full army number

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Post by Bulldog » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:55 am

Hi

I found these links with hopefully a bit more information for you

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/content/vi ... 01525&sp=0

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... ar&indiv=1

http://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/Vie ... arrowLinks



As John as already mentioned you can apply for his service records

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Post by Ron Flowers » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:14 pm

Hi, Do you know which Police Force he was in. I work at the Manchester Police Museum and Archive and we hold all the records for Manchester City Police, Salford and some of the forces that now go to making up GMP. If he was one of ours we may have something on record for him. If not then which ever force he was in should!? hold the same information.
Hope that is of some help.

Cheers Ron

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Post by pacopitt » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:24 pm

Many thanks to everyone who has posted replies to me on this site. It is much appreciated.
George Albert Butter's service number during WW1 was 5261. Would he have been given this number when he joined the reservists in 1914 does anyone know, or would this have been his original service number for the previous seven years before WW1 when he was in the 20th Hussars-from about 1905 to 1913/4.
I already had printed off all the information from the Unicorn Cemetery thanks, and I also know that 3 other soldiers were killed at the same time as my Great Uncle.
Ron,
George was in the West Sussex Police Force, and I do have an ex-policeman contact fron there thanks, as he is researching all the names on the Horsham police station plaque, of those who died in WW1, and George was one of them.
Thanks once again everyone.
Regards, Rosemary.

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Post by Johnny Morris » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:09 am

If you copy and paste this link then I hope that may help

http://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.co.u ... ssars.html

My reading of the information on that page would be that 5261 was his original number given to him when he joined the 20th.

The numbers allocated to the 20th were
5056 -May 1905 onwards - up to 5326 September 1906.

Hope that helps, I do believe that to get details of where he served you will need to get hold of a copy of his full service record and I suspect that will mean contacting the MOD.

If you Google MOD records departments you will find the link there to Contact them.

Good luck in your search
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Post by Bob_H » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:19 pm

This from Mac "Hope you are well, please would you post on the site the attached letter and Photograph from Rosemary Pitt, if you recall she posted regarding her Great Uncle, George Butters a few weeks ago. I am able to visit his Grave next year hence the correspondence."

Thanks for the images from Rosemary:
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Post by Phil(Quassie)Baldwin » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:54 pm

Its a shame there was no house No I have tried looking up Romeo Villas drew a blank. London road Mitcham is not very long but is one of the main routes in to the town centre running from Tooting and Mitcham Football club to the centre its about a mile and a half to the centre from where I live. If I do manage to locate it or where it was I will take some Photo's
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Post by Bob_H » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:22 am

Tried on Google Maps too, Phil. No sign of the place.
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Post by Bob_H » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:14 pm

This from Paul MacNulty:
"Hi Fellas,

I have recently returned from a visit to the Somme Battlefield and I managed to visit Unicorn Cemetery and lay a tribute at each of the eight 20TH Hussars buried there; including one on the Grave of Georg Butters on behalf of his Great Niece Rosemary Pitt who started this thread.

If you have not visited the Somme I would encourage you to try and get across it is a great place to visit very moving without being at all morbid and the French who live in the area take great pride in their care of the area and the memories of the loss of the British Army during WW1.

Cheers

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Re: George Albert Butters

Post by PINKY » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:52 pm

Hi there,
An awesome tribute Mac.
atb
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Re: George Albert Butters

Post by Prendo » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:16 pm

Great stuff Mac.
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