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Welcome to the Noah's ARC Archive.

I am very fortunate in being the webmaster of this site in that I often receive surprises in my mailbox. Many of these Emails are copied to me on their way to Patrick O'Dwyer, our researcher, and often they include old photographs. I have decided that I should share these with you and so I present them here. They are usually accompanied by descriptions and these will also be included.

If you're looking for the History of your ancestors, searching Public Records may be helpful in uncovering Missing information.

In order to maintain clarity some of these images are necessarily large - please be patient and allow them to download - they are worth it!

Pte E McGowan - 14th King's Hussars, PoW Wittenberg
A fascinating and mysterious item has come to light in this WW1 Prisoner of War Mess Tin. It is ornately engraved and contains the details of 360 Pte E McGowan, XIV King's Hussars. Unfortunately no trace of Pte McGowan can be found.

Can you help??

Have a look at these details: Click Here
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Sgt Thomas Morris - 14th Light Dragoons 1809-1821

Perhaps one of our oldest archive items, it shows that Thomas Morris enlisted in 1809 in Worcester aged 18 years under the command of General The Earl of Bridgewater and served until 1821 aged 'about 30 years'.

Ian Grimwood from Australia writes:

I am currently researching my Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandfather, Thomas Morris, who served with the 14th Light Dragoons from 1809 until discharging with the rank of Serjeant in 1821.

This service included participation in the Peninsula War, resulting in the awarding of an eight clasp Military General Service Medal and a gunshot wound received on the 11th April 1812 at Villa Garcia. Clasps awarded were: Busaco, Fuentes D'Onor, Badajoz, Salamanca, Vittoria,Pyrenees, Orthes Toulouse.

As far as I can ascertain, his MGS found its way to Australia in the late 1800's, but I would be interested to know whether or not you hold it in your collection. If you do I would greatly appreciate, if a photo of the medal could be taken and sent to me. I say this without any intent of making a claim on the medal, but purely for interests sake.

Thomas Morris, who died on the 17th August, 1870 in England, was the start of a long line of military servicemen and women in Australia. His line reached Australia when his Daughter emigrated to Australia with her Husband and four children on board the vessel "Regina" in 1857.

Among the Military family he heads, is a Trooper in the 1st NSW Mounted Rifles in the Boer War and 4 Brothers who served in the same tank, as Family lore goes, in the 1st Australian Armoured Regiment during WWII.

From some of the information I have, it appears one of his Sons also emigrated out here and brought the MGS with him.
I am a member of the OMRS, so have contacts out looking for it out here. It would be great to hear it still exists and possibly get a photo, but I am very happy the discharge certificate is of interest to your Club.


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Sgt Bryant
Mike Harradence has writen to Patrick enquiring about his great grandfather (R Bryant) who served in the 14th Hussars around the turn of the century. He has provided an interesting set of pictures: One shows Sgt Bryant in a group photo in 1899 and a very interesting hand-written Part One Orders:

Have a look at these below and then Click Here for more photos.

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This one is entitled

Rough Riders XIV King's Hussars


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Newbridge 1898

On the Frame Beneath the photo are the words, Charleton & Son and Newbridge, Curragh & Dublin
and the identities are listed as:
Pte Rogers SSM RR Martin Pte Mason Capt R Odlum Pte Marks Sgt Leishman Sgt Huxley Sgt Bryant Pte Rothery


The next one is an amazing Daily Orders manuscript: p2
Displayed is just the top section of the Orders, you can see the full manuscript by clicking on one of the links.

It shows that they were produced at The Curragh in 1901 and this piece has three Sections:

1/
Detail
Details the Guard duties
2/ Discipline No 5154 Pte Hall 8th Hussars has been sentenced by a D.C.M. to 14 days Impr H.L. for "Absence from defaulters drill".
3/ Gazette The following extract from the "London Gazette" dated January 15th 1901 is published for information.

"HM The Queen has decided to confer the Victoria Cross on Major E, D Brown, 14th Hussars for the following acts of bravery.

On Octr 13th 1901, at GELUK, when the enemy were within 400 yards and bringing a heavy fire to bear, Major Brown, seeing that Sergeant Herseys horse was shot, stopped behind the last Sqdn as it was retiring, and helped Sergeant Hersey to mount behind him, carrying him for about three-quarters of a mile to a place of safety. He did this under a heavy fire. Major Brown afterwards enabled Lieut Browne, 14th Hussars, to mount, by holding his horse, which was very restive under the heavy fire. Lieut Browne could not otherwise have mounted. Subsequently Major Brown carried Lance-Corporal trumpeter Leigh out of action.
"

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Lyndon Francis Marquer
Although not as old as some of the articles that are on this page this one is none-the-less as interesting. It shows the citation of gallantry awarded to Trooper Marquer whilst serving in Libya with the 14th/20th King's Hussars in 1953. Photos of the vehicles involved are also shown below.

The images were sent in by Malcolm Brown who served with 1420H from 1952-1954 - Malcolm's other photos are here Malcolm Brown Collection.





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Frederick Winchester - Here's One For The Regimental Band
Elaine Smith's grandfather - Frederick Winchester, was born 6th June 1896 (died 1st June 1965) and went in to the 20th Hussars in the band playing the clarinet at the age of 14. Elaine has provided photos of the band from 1912, 1916 and 1919. He was also in Turkey with the regiment in 1920.
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Ray Baker
Mr Nick Baker has sent us some photographs of his father recently scanned from old negatives. Although not as old perhaps as some of our other Archives (below), they nonetheless predate most of us I'm sure. However, if anyone does recognise any individual on the photos we'd be delighted to hear from you. The period is around 1946/1947 and thought to be in Wuppertal. To see the full collection,
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In memory of Private James Amor 14th King's Hussars of this Parish who was killed in action at Roodekap SA on April 24th 1900. Erected by his comrades.
Back in April Mitch Metcalfe posted this interesting story: " A few years ago whilst living in Wiltshire a friend of mine (a good bloke did his NS in the 16/5 L) suggested that I visit his home village to have a look at the church clock. The clock had been built by his grandfather, who was the village engineer/blacksmith/general handyman. The clock was an oddity having been made from all sorts of bits and pieces and odds and ends, and worth seeing. So one sunny summer day I took my lady friend and went to see it. The clock is on the village church in Wootton Rivers, which is a pretty chocolate box village. Full of thatched cottages and friendly yokels, with an excellent pub also worth a visit.

We went and saw the clock, and were suitably impressed, but then looking around the church I made a discovery. On one wall is a plaque, all the details of which escape me now. It had been presented to the family of L/Cpl Amor of the 14th Kings Hussars by members of the Regiment. L/Cpl Amor had been killed in action in the Boer war, if you have your copies of the Emperor's Chambermaids you will find the relevant action on pages 281 & 282. The plaque is made of brass and copper and has the Eagle set in relief. It was brightly polished and well looked after, all in all a very impressive memorial. So if you're down in that neck of the woods it's worth having a look at, and you can get an excellent pint and a meal at the pub. Wootton Rivers is set within a triangle between Marlborough and Pewsey and East court.

Enjoy the day. Mitch......... "
Brian Hunter has recently followed up this visit and sent in the following photographs of the Church and of the Memorial: (Thanks to Mitch and Brian)

The Church at Wootton Rivers        The Memorial to James Amor
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Paula Dawson is trying to find out as much as she can about her Grandfather
Albert King
Albert was born in Brentford, Essex, and the family know that he died of TB in 1937. He is buried in York Cemetery and received a full military funeral. The Iron Cross placed on his grave has long since gone.

Below is a photograph of the football team. Painted on the ball is 'Sqdn Football Cup 1927-1928 Winners B Sqn 14/20th Hrs'

See the Team members below the photo (do these names seem familiar?)
Below that is a phograph of Albert

If you have any information please get in touch

B for Best ??

BACK ROW: Tpr Osborne, Tpr Taylor, Tpr Ward, Farrier Coath, Tpr King (Paula's Grandfather), Cpl Maddocks, Tpr Ponsford.
SEATED: Tpr Shaw, Sgt Underhill, Capt Moule MC, Cpl Blake, Tpr Palmer.
FRONT: Tpr Booker. Tpr Lane.
Trooper Albert King
Albert King
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Francis Paterson - Supplied by Carol Farenden
This is one of the best photographs that I have ever seen for clarity and the detail in the uniform and accoutrements.

Francis Paterson

Carol writes: "This is my Great Uncle, Francis William Paterson who I think served in 14th Hussars. The photograph belonged to my Grandmother, Francis's sister, she told me that he had been killed in the war, by that I assumed WWI. I searched the Catherine House Index for his birth certificate and that, to date, is the only information I have, that is until an email from Patrick and he has identified the uniform and the medals (I'm swinging from the rafters.)

Details from birth certificate:

Registration district Shoreditch, sub district of Haggerston, County of Middlesex
Birth Date 8th May 1883
Place 1 Mill Row, Haggerston
Name Francis William
Father David James Paterson, Printer
Mother Emma Matilda Paterson formerly Sheppard
Registration Date 18th June 1883

Who knows someone somewhere may have more information about him.
Regards,
Carol
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Aldershot Inspection
Sadly not the clearest of pictures but nonetheless very interesting. This was sent in by Arnie Greenwood with the hope that someone can date it from the Austin cars in the background. The text below the picture is virtually illegible and is therefore repeated below the photo:



MILITARY LEADERS WITNESSING MECHANICAL MANOEUVRES OF FAMOUS CAVALRY REGIMENTS

Experience gained under modern conditions of warfare from 1914 to 1918 has resulted in the depreciation of cavalry as an effective fighting force. Some of the crack cavalry corps are now mounted in small Whippettanks and Austin cars. Brigadier-General W.T. Hodgson (second figure from left) is seen here inspecting detachments of the 1st Cavalry Brigade, comprising the 14th/20th Hussars and the 1st (King's) Dragoon Guards, at Aldershot prior to their departure for autumn manoeuvres on Salisbury Plain.
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Another contribution from Jim Rudge. How much do you know about the 26th Hussars?
I was up in Nottingham on the weekend and visited one of the markets which spring up all over the place. Going through a box of old badges I came across this: I recognized the 'eagle' but not the '26th Hussars'. I picked up the badge out of curiosity.

Having got back home, I did some research and found that this Regiment was raised on the 1st February, 1941 in India at Nira Barracks, Poona. The initial drafts coming from the 14th/20th King's Hussars. The 25th Dragoons were formed at the same time. The main reason these Regiments were raised was the lack of armour in the far east. The rest of the 26th was made up from infantry and other units serving in India at the same time. Most of them had been serving in India for seven years or more and morale was very low. This lowness of morale was quickly taken up by the new drafts coming out from UK. When the regiments were up to strength the old lags were sent back to 'Blighty'.

At the end of 1943 the 25th Dragoons were ordered into the front line. They were moved to Araken with a great deal of secrecy. There they proved at the 'Battle of Admin Box' that tanks could operate in the jungle. During this same period the 26th Hussars had been ordered to mobilize for war, they were supplied with 37mm and 75mm ammo, and all the tanks were loaded ready. Morale was very high and then came the order that the 26th Hussars were to be disbanded.

Most of them were used to reinforce the 3rd Carabiniers. The rest went to Special Forces later known as The Chindits. The 3rd Carbs of course won many Battle Honours, 13 I think in Burma.

Quite interesting I think, I never knew that there was such a Regiment as the 26th Hussars. They were officially disbanded in 1948.

Most of the article that I have written was obtained from A Burma star veteran. Trooper M L Connelly No 7945760. He started his service at Bovey, with the 52nd Training Regiment, went on to serve with 26th Hussars, 3rd Carabiniers and also various other units within the RAC finishing with the Demonstration Squadron, Warminster.

The rest I researched from the Web.

I Wonder if there are any more oldies from the 26th out there ?

All the best for now,

Jim Rudge.
The Cap Badge of the 26th Hussars
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This was sent in to me by Mike Grundy. It's a beautiful picture of the Regiment's Battle Honours.


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I received this recently from Jim Rudge.
Jim describes it as a 'Shako (which I think is a hat) Badge'.

Who can fill us in with information on this?



'Mit Gott Fur Koenig Und Vaterland'



Phil Tonks has supplied us with this message - thank's Phil.

I believe that this particular badge was the one worn on all Prussian Regimental Helmets in the German Army up to and including the Great War. It should have been shaped in a roundish way to fit the front of a Kaiser Wilhelm type helmet or "Pickelhaube" as they were known. I stress, also, the word Prussian, as some other areas had their own variation. I used to have a "Pickelhaube" with this very badge on it until I was persuaded to sell it round about 1984. It has no regimental connotation unless you say that any connection with the Preussens Adler is included.
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Here's an enquiry from Chris Green to Patrick
Patrick

I was looking at the ARC website and found that you are researching the 14th. My grandfather, William George Green, joined the Hussars at the age of 14 (he falseified his birth)and was discharged in about 1920. He most certainly served in Persia and India. My Father and Aunt both have a few pictures and memorabilia, including some medals.

What I currently have is a wonderful picture of my Grandfather with his horse. See the attachment.

I would like to learn more about the 14th myself, and will certainly ask my father if he has any information that he will share with you.

Chris Green
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And another from Gary King

Dear Patrick,

My name is Gary King, living in Ontario, Canada. I noticed your website tonite, and thought perhaps you might have some information about a cotton flash that I have come across in an old family bible, enscribed with 14th (King's) Hussars.
My Grandfather's mother's father, Thomas Snook was born Aug 9, 1858, presumably in the UK. We do not know much more about him.

I have his Holy Bible in which his name and address are inscribed as follows:

Mr Thomas Snook
9 Westbourn Grove
West St
Bedminister
Bristol

Inside the Bible there is a 3" x 1 3/4" 14th (Kings)Hussars cotton flash. It has Blue and Purple badge containing insignia of Purple Bird & Leaves on Beige Background; with the words 14th (Kings)Hussars in Blue across bottom of the Beige Flash. A photo of this flash is attached.

Was this flash used over a period of years? By whom? What did it signify?

Are there Lists that we can review, to determine if there were any Snook's in the 14th (King's Hussars) during this period?
Any advice, history, or sugggestions are most welcome.

Sincerely, Gary King, Burlington, Ontario.
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And, from Debbie Minto
Hi Patrick,

I've only just found out some info on a relative of a friend of mine. His name was Joseph Wallace Hardy, and he served with the Hussars during the First World War. His number was #6968, and he was a resident of Howden-le-Wear, Co Durham. He died in Mesopotamia on 17 February 1917. This info conflicts with some that we'd found earlier, where we'd been informed that he'd been killed in 1915 on the forced march from the siege of Kut-al-Amara... looks like he was (briefly) one of the lucky ones.
I've attached a photo of Wallace (he's the one on the right - don't know who his friend is) - if you find any more information on the Hussars' involvement in the Mesopotamia campaign during this time, I would love to know.
Regards, Debbie Minto


Followed By: Back from my weekend away, and I have a bit more info on Wallace Hardy.

In your last Email you asked what evidence we have for thinking that Wallace died on the route march from Kut-al-Amara. Unfortunately, we have no written evidence (any letter or telegram having been lost over the years) - my friend, Margaret, whose uncle Wallace was, was told by her late mother and father that this was the case. In doing a little research on her own, she found out very little about the siege of Kut except that it was supposed to have been in 1915, which is when she assumed Wallace had died. All in all not a great deal, I'm sure you'll agree!!!

We're more convinced that the records stand as correct, as the information we have has been mostly "family folklore" and (it appears) mis-information about Kut. Any further information you could give us about the 14th Hussars involvement in Kut, and in India around the time of Wallace's career with them, would be gratefully received. Unfortunately, we don't know Wallace's date of birth (looking into it with the record office at Bishop Auckland, his place of birth at the moment), but we believe he was 23 or 24 when he died, so it would have been about 1893 or 1894 (assuming that THIS information is correct about his age!!).

However, the one thing that we have found is the photo of him in his dress uniform (he is the chap seated on the right - we have no idea who his friend is - it's not the same chap as on the photo taken in India, and his uniform is completely different). It's not in such good condition as the other photo, but still quite interesting - hope you think so too.

Warm regards, Debbie Minto

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