centurion to chieftain (Tank)

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centurion to chieftain (Tank)

Postby mike » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:45 pm

Can anybody tell me when the regiment converted from centurion tanks to chieftain tanks ? i think it was about 1968 but am not sure? also did the chieftains turret mimic the conquerors tank turret ? also the first mark one chieftain tanks were they under powered so needing upgraded power pack?.

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Re: centurion to chieftain (Tank)

Postby PINKY » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:00 pm

Hi Mike,
I got to the regt. in 1980 and I can only comment on the question about the L60 Leyland engine. It was under powered from day one. it had many up grades but continued to fail up until Chieftain was replaced by Challenger 1.
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Re: centurion to chieftain (Tank)

Postby tigger » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:01 am

The Chieftain sufered with some reliability issues for a number of yeard through its developement.

Some of which might be put down to sabotage by some German Nationals who worked in the Base workshops and were caught putting solder into Cooling Fin hub Oil Galleries (they were in the pay of the soviets)

As to power I found it to be adequate, it matched the capabilities of the GFC units and suspension, not untill the Shah (Challenger 1) was adopted with Hydrogas suspension units was there a capability for increased BHP.

Chally was a great improvement But I personally liked the Chieftain more (especially the Mk 5)

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Re: centurion to chieftain (Tank)

Postby mick burgess » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:37 pm

Regarding the turret no it was not like the Conq. If you remember on the ldrs side there was the "Mullins" ejection Shute that once the big 120mm case was put in the ldr pressed a lever and it was thrown out the side of the turret.
The comdr was sat up above the gnr in a sort of separate turret that would allow him with his power traverse controller search for tgts independently of the main turret.
This meant the gnr would be engaging one target the comd could acquire another target then would shout the order "Stand by Line Up" press his traverse controller and the main gun/turret would swing round until the gnrs sight was lined up with his.
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Postby ALGY CAIN » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:32 pm

Reference conversion it was 1968, I did my driver conversion in the November.

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Re: centurion to chieftain (Tank)

Postby mike » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:32 pm

:wink: Thanks for your input has helped a lot.
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Re: centurion to chieftain (Tank)

Postby Hawk195 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:21 pm

Hi Mick
You were correct with all details except one, the ejection lift did not work. ken Preece was my troop leader and I was his operator/loader. If we ever had to shoot I finished up with about 4 case which were nearly as big as me to heave through the turret access which for me at the time was somewhat of a problem. I even remember him giving me a B telling off because I could not get the case to load properly, his instruction then was to hammer it in with a lead hammer. I fortunately got stronger by the time we left Hohne to load them OK.
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Postby Taff » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:53 pm

Still had Centurion ARV's at Hohne 1978/79.
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Re: centurion to chieftain (Tank)

Postby PINKY » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:02 pm

and after that Taff, when the chieftain ARVs went away to get upgraded we got Cent ARVs I'm thinking it was about '81-'82.
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Re: centurion to chieftain (Tank)

Postby mick burgess » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:50 pm

Your right Dusty the ejection gear was unreliable and made the loaders task very physical especially for "Short Arses" !!!!!!!
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